Sprinter-Forum    
 

Go Back   Sprinter-Forum > Sprinter-Based RV's & Conversions > Sprinter-Based RV Brands > Roadtrek


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-16-2014, 12:32 AM   #141
BobLLL
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Pacific Northwest, USA
Posts: 290
Thanks: 51
Thanked 81 Times in 65 Posts
Default Re: 2010 Sprinter Roadtrek..144"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mein Sprinter View Post
Good Morning..

Preparing the Van for the long trip! Found these two bolts in the glove compartment. You have any idea what these are for?



Thank you...

cheers...
I forgot to mention that those mystery bolts in your glove box look like they came off the engine somewhere. Lots of bolts with those heads are holding various brackets onto the engine. Look and see if someone removed something and put it back with different bolts, maybe for ease of future removal. The brackets near the fuel filter would be my first guess.
__________________
Bob
2011 Roadtrek SS Agile
BobLLL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2014, 11:38 PM   #142
Mein Sprinter
2010 Roadtrek SS Agile
 
Mein Sprinter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 774
Thanks: 314
Thanked 230 Times in 160 Posts
Default Re: 2010 Sprinter Roadtrek..144"

Quote:
Originally Posted by BobLLL View Post
I forgot to mention that those mystery bolts in your glove box look like they came off the engine somewhere. Lots of bolts with those heads are holding various brackets onto the engine. Look and see if someone removed something and put it back with different bolts, maybe for ease of future removal. The brackets near the fuel filter would be my first guess.
Aye will seek the bolts void, hmmnn...am on the road now and will take a look when camping in Death Valley . Hope Motor won't fall off.

Am in Canton. TX..RV Camp overnight after first overnight(28F) at Cracker Barrel. Furnace is a champ...ran all night off batts and LP.

Diesel mileage is so n' so--17.41-19.73 mpg. Well, she's fully ladden sans the Missus for now. Speeds on first day purely 65mph(19.45-19.73mpg)... today 72mph(17.41-17.84mpg).

Drove till the odometer showed 400+ miles then got scary about going further...everytime I fill yer up she's still good for another 5 gallons.

OK, my Smart car has a "D".. floor shelf shifter "1-2-3-4-5" speeds(I see these on the dashboard). Also paddle wheels to the self shifting. You can shift three ways and it has a CVT trans, so nothing to do with the Sprinter but am curious. When in D Sprinter in gear speed 1. It then shifts 2,3,4,5(?) automatically. 5 is overdrive, right? Now when doing the manual shifting 1,2,3,4 that's it... there's no 5 a 5 only gets there if you use the auto D, right? You don't see a number 5 on the dash display when manually shifting, right?

OK, now at precisely(GPS) 65mph the rpms are 2420, hmmnn...right? Am I too high? 72mph..2640 rpms..

Off to EL Paso manana..!

cheers...
__________________
2010 Roadtrek SS Agile
Mein Sprinter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2014, 11:48 PM   #143
Mein Sprinter
2010 Roadtrek SS Agile
 
Mein Sprinter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 774
Thanks: 314
Thanked 230 Times in 160 Posts
Default Re: 2010 Sprinter Roadtrek..144"

Quote:
Originally Posted by israndy View Post
Say, Mein, why is your profile pic one of a Vanagon when your name includes 'Sprinter'?

If you are going to the Sprinter Store and don't do it too soon I would wait for SprinterFest west in April. It's shocking to suddenly be surrounded by a pile of likeminded individuals after walking around the waking world with people wondering why you drive such a big car when you could drive a smart car like them. For me it is a 10 hour hike so I save up that drive until I can combine events. Got to check out Portland and the Custom Van guys, even had some cheap keys cloned for my Sprinter at the locksmith Upscale Automotive uses. Great trip.

I did have the guys put on some Konis while I was there, but I am not likely to repeat that with the new RV as they put my teeth on edge driving rough roads, think I am going with the Bilsteins after reading http://www.motorhome.com/rv-how-to/r...absorber-test/

-Randy
He, he Randy, about the VW Eurovan... Have yet to make a nice Sprinter a la Familia camping pix. Didn't want to retire the Eurovan so fast, she's been, my God, everywhere and held up forevermore with my care. Decided to give her some honor here till .. ???

See on of our Eurovan Treks:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=899281

Hope to do the same with M/V ELSHA..the sprinter/Roadrek...(Motor/vessel-ElmerSharon)

cheers...
__________________
2010 Roadtrek SS Agile
Mein Sprinter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2014, 01:14 AM   #144
BobLLL
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Pacific Northwest, USA
Posts: 290
Thanks: 51
Thanked 81 Times in 65 Posts
Default Re: 2010 Sprinter Roadtrek..144"

I doubt there are any bolt vacancies. Probably someone replaced those bolts with a couple hex head bolts.

The upper end of your mileage is about the same as I run on the freeway. Average 19.5 for all 23K miles I have driven it. Rarely above 21, but rarely below 18. Lowest tank was 17.1 on the plains into a steady strong headwind. I don't like to drive past 400 miles to look for fuel, because I've been caught out with not much in the tank and had to worry a couple of time. First, it was a long stretch with no towns and I hadn't been paying attention until the fuel light came on. The next watering hole had gas, but no diesel. Then it was a station with diesel out of order, had to find another in the dark. Then it was the only station at the lonely exit completely out of business on account of the recession I guess. This sort of risk is more common in the West. You probably know the only diesel in Death Valley is at Furnace Creek, and it is usually a cool $1 more per gallon than outside the park.

You figured out the transmission correctly.
__________________
Bob
2011 Roadtrek SS Agile
BobLLL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2014, 01:21 AM   #145
icarus
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,493
Thanks: 212
Thanked 1,266 Times in 919 Posts
Default Re: 2010 Sprinter Roadtrek..144"

When the low fuel light lights up, if you fuel right now, it will take just 20 US gallons. Another 60-100 miles of range. I panic when the light lights, so I stop ASAP, nd it is always ~20 gals.

Icarus
icarus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2014, 01:35 AM   #146
BobLLL
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Pacific Northwest, USA
Posts: 290
Thanks: 51
Thanked 81 Times in 65 Posts
Default Re: 2010 Sprinter Roadtrek..144"

I see the same thing, the light comes on at 20 gallons. The gauge goes to zero at the same time, which I hate, because then I start questioning, "how long has that light really been on, damn I forgot to set the trip odo."
__________________
Bob
2011 Roadtrek SS Agile
BobLLL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2014, 01:43 AM   #147
sailquik
 
sailquik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Cape Hatteras, North Carolina
Posts: 4,371
Thanks: 468
Thanked 1,957 Times in 1,326 Posts
Default Re: 2010 Sprinter Roadtrek..144"

Elmer,
If you just leave it in "D" (Drive) your Sprinter will downshift to 1st gear if you come to a stop.
Then it will auto upshift to 2nd, then up to 3rd, then into 4th, and finally into 5th gear (0.83:1 overdrive).
You may get better mileage with headwinds or up a hill by shifting down to 4th gear 1:1 straight through the
NAG-1 transmission.
It will at some point "auto downshift" but it won't do it until the % engine Load reaches 100% and has been
there for quite a length of time. What you don't see is that engine management has pushed your fueling rate up to
the maximum possible for your current RPM and cranked up your turbocharger boost to the maximum to compensate
for all that additional fuel.
So, running at 100% fueling rate and 100% turbo boost is not fuel efficient, and if done for too long, it's not really
good for your engine.
You can make a proactive manual downshift when your % engine load reaches 75% (if you have any sort of performance monitoring
gauge package to give this information) and save fuel, get better acceleration and performance and ensure that you get the
best longevity from your Sprinter RV.
No Scan Gauge II or similar performance monitoring gauge package, and you will have no idea of all the changes engine management'
makes for you.
At a steady speed, a steady throttle position (either your right foot or Cruise Control (CC), your Sprinter can be making no turbo boost and using
no fuel (zero (0) GPH fuel flow) to 100% turbo boost (~36 PSIA MAP) and > ~5-6 GPH fuel and you (the driver) changed nothing at all.
What changed is the terrain or head winds.
Your Sprinter has no on board OEM systems to provide this information.
Regarding your fuel fill ups, seems like you are getting pretty good mileage for the speeds you are running but I suspect the terrain has
been pretty flat so far.
If you are on I-10 coming east to west ...I BTDT several times.
Your fuel tank holds 100 liters (26.4 gallons) and the Fuel light and the "Drive to a Fuel Station" notification will show up on your
display when you have used 75% of that 100 liters so you have 25 liters left (6.6 gallons).
That's the way it was developed and implemented.... it just the way it is.
Depending on your current fuel mileage you can use some or all of that as a reserve, but to be safe you need to start looking for
diesel fuel.
So, as both Icarus and BobLLL suggest, 26.4 gal- 6.6 gal (25 liter reserve)= 19.8 gallons used. So, right @ 20 gallons, leaving you
6.4 gallons to find a fuel stop.
Hope this helps,
Roger
__________________
2014 Sprinter 516 series (3500 DRW) 170"/4325 mm wb Hi Top Short Back
OM-651 I4 2.143 liter two stage turbo charged with 36.9 PSIA Waste Gate
7 Speed 7G-Tronic, manually shiftable, automatic transmission.
Suspension Seats, Active Safety Package +, Parktronic, OEM Hitch/wiring
OEM back up camera, Bi Xenon light package, fog lamps, headlight washers.
Had 2006 T1N 3500/158|2010 NCV3 519/3500/144|2011 & 2012 NCV3 519/3500 170

Last edited by sailquik; 01-17-2014 at 01:57 AM.
sailquik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2014, 03:14 AM   #148
aaagong@yahoo.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 27
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: 2010 Sprinter Roadtrek..144"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mein Sprinter View Post
He, he Randy, about the VW Eurovan... Have yet to make a nice Sprinter a la Familia camping pix. Didn't want to retire the Eurovan so fast, she's been, my God, everywhere and held up forevermore with my care. Decided to give her some honor here till .. ???

See on of our Eurovan Treks:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=899281

Hope to do the same with M/V ELSHA..the sprinter/Roadrek...(Motor/vessel-ElmerSharon)

cheers...
I have a 2003 Eurovan Camper too. It is like new, still in my garage. Don't know if I should sell it or not.

2011 Agile
aaagong@yahoo.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2014, 04:33 PM   #149
Mein Sprinter
2010 Roadtrek SS Agile
 
Mein Sprinter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 774
Thanks: 314
Thanked 230 Times in 160 Posts
Default Re: 2010 Sprinter Roadtrek..144"

Lousy internet here in the BIG State of Texas…aarrgghhh…at KOA campground! Gotta wait till I hit El Paso's St'Bucks

Thanks Amigos: BobLLL; Icarus; Sailquik...

Rolled into VanHorn,TX last night.

Just for experiments sake drove 75 mph the entire time on I-20 > I-10 and earned a mileage of 16.7 mpg.






Understood the "dive" from 17-19 mpg. Runs great...plenty of power left; no winds; some Texas Hills...but otherwise great.

Of course I look for fuel when the light goes on with one bar .. which like you said translates to 5-6 gallons left, but come on... that's(depending on your speed/mileage)... I tend to give myself a conservative 15mpg...which would translate to about another 75-90 miles, ... that's plenty of a distance, BUT the light makes on worry...procrastinate...nervous...! Since the advent of GPS where one can pin point fuel availability... it's there!

BUT the design to search for fuel for 90-120 miles to me is absurd at best me thinks but I do it because the light gives me the shivers .

And my rpms are on the money ?? I ain't in limp mode ??

Took on fuel($3.64/gal) at Flying J south of Fort Worth and without really reading the pump, pumped in 2.5 gallons of their BioMas(biodiesel) B20... wooo.. am only allowed ?? to take <B5 for the sake of the DEF/catalytic converter/EPA stuff, etc). Immediately scoured for another station that had ULSD! So I lugged for some 326 miles this B20 stuff in my tank. Didn't know that they already went that low.

Oh, it's good for the environment ... but the Sprinter isn't designed to take anything lower for now. Miss the days when I ran my Rabbit diesel truck, 190D; 300TD an REAL diesel even with some addition of commercial waste oil cooking oil..etc. Exhaust smelled french fries being broasted

Rolled into the much polluted city of El Paso..downtown is hardly visible behind this inverse cloud of brown muck.



Now tothe Roadtrek design... you guys ever struggle with this tight, non accessible for man-hands to connect the TV cable. Lordy, lord who ever designed this... children of Roadtrek employees?? Tough to screw in/tough to unscrew in the morning when it is 28F outside..aaarrghh! Gotta modify it to a slide in connect instead. Lookin' for Radio Shack.



cheers...
__________________
2010 Roadtrek SS Agile
Mein Sprinter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2014, 04:41 PM   #150
Mein Sprinter
2010 Roadtrek SS Agile
 
Mein Sprinter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 774
Thanks: 314
Thanked 230 Times in 160 Posts
Default Re: 2010 Sprinter Roadtrek..144"

Quote:
Originally Posted by aaagong@yahoo.com View Post
I have a 2003 Eurovan Camper too. It is like new, still in my garage. Don't know if I should sell it or not.

2011 Agile
I was very hesistant in selling mine, but at my age and my Missus, we wanted a bit more comfort; toilet; occasional shower when dry camping. So we reluctantly took the plunge. The Eurovan sold in a day .. put an add in three places..boom, had 4 tkers waiting in line if the first defaults. Sold it at a good price... 130k miles, impeccable; well taken care of my me;!

Look at GoWesty and PopTop campers prices...wooo... outa wack- but I got close!

T5-T6 because the Sprinter took the breath away from VW so does Nissan, Fiat now, BUT if the VW T-5,T-6 comes over your Eurovan will sell for scrap..so beware! As the M.Benz Viano is coming over...

cheers..
__________________
2010 Roadtrek SS Agile
Mein Sprinter is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 09:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2006 - 2012, Sprinter-Source.com