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Old 09-07-2009, 10:23 PM   #1
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Default My 2007 Sprinter starter battery - branding evidence

We all know that Sprinters in the NAFTA region were not sold by MB USA, LLC's dealerships; Daimler's licensee was Freightliner and then Dodge.

Most of us know that this will change on Jan 1st, 2010 and Sprinters in the US will be a product managed by MB USA, LLC, wearing the Three-Pointed Star.

I was curious about my starter battery specifications (CCA, Amp hours etc), so today I uncovered it to take a look.

I couldn't believe what I found....


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What's that blacked out? (note the red arrow). Up close, it was clearly indelible ink... like a Sharpie pen....

I grabbed some acetone (it takes Sharpie off whiteboards, if you're a white collar guy like me, who accidentally uses a Sharpie instead of erasable markers).

Look what's underneath...

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I know that Daimler part numbers are on the Freightliner logos, the Dodge logos, the wheel coverings lack MB stars; but to order Sharpie pens for factory workers to redact the MB relationship - clearly visible on the battery - that's just.... unbelievable to me... especially since they didn't block out the MB logo to the left.

-Jon

or maybe they were just covering up "made in the usa?" I still don't see the economic reason for this...
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:41 PM   #2
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Default Re: My 2007 Sprinter starter battery - branding evidence



I thought acetone takes off everything. Now I know.
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Default Re: My 2007 Sprinter starter battery - branding evidence

Jon it's the way it goes with NAFTA and local content but the batt! should be 88-100 Amp
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Default Re: My 2007 Sprinter starter battery - branding evidence

It could be as simple as not letting an end user know where he could possibly source a battery (a non standard size that if he needed in a hurry he would only find at the dealer$). FYI, my German assembled 2008 (Canadian vans are built in the motherland) has a Varta battery from Germany with very few MB markings on it.

Either way Jon, interesting find!!!
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East Penn Manufacturing (Deka & MK brands). Not surprised, as they are one of the quality manufacturers of batteries here in the US. In my area, you can buy EPM/Deka batteries from NAPA (labeled as NAPA).

http://www.eastpenn-deka.com/assets/base/0379.pdf

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Default Re: My 2007 Sprinter starter battery - branding evidence

I'm surprised MB didn't specify in the contract that the blacked out stuff be missing from the label.

I guess the supplier could have redacted the data before delivery.

No matter what, someone dropped the ball.

Brian (CocoaVan),

Do you think it's one of the two BCI group 49s on your PDF (thanks for that, btw.) ?

-Jon


PS: I just realized only one of the models listed is AGM. Do you think that's it?
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Default Re: My 2007 Sprinter starter battery - branding evidence

Jon,
I should look at my Sprinter's starting battery one of these days. Your's appears to be a BCI Group 49 battery. It probably is the Deka 9AGM49. I believe the NAPA part number for that battery is BAT9849. I'll call NAPA and ask them if that is the correct match. In the past, they've cross-referenced the OEM battery model numbers for me.

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Default Re: My 2007 Sprinter starter battery - branding evidence

jon, you spend way too much time alone with your sprinter! thanks for making me take up my floor mat! my starter batery is a german made varta, and the aux is also varta, but made in the czeck republic. no marker cover-ups on these babies!

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Default Re: My 2007 Sprinter starter battery - branding evidence

Resurrecting this thread, but with a focus on the AGM replacement....


I could swear I read somewhere that my AGM factory battery was a three year battery. I just can't find it right now... or maybe I was hallucinating.

Either way, it made me wonder if we 2007 owners will begin replacing our starter batteries in the next 12 months.

I was looking the Braille Group 49 offering.

I reviewed this thread....
Then I reviewed Brian's posting about Deka: and finally then looked at the posting by josephpampliega.

Here is the Braille offering:
B10049v01sm.jpg

Here is the (East Penn) Deka - aka EPD -
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Here's the NAPA Legend (napa part BAT 9849)
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To me, it looks like the same casing on all the batteries; really similar to the form factor (color notwithstanding) of my factory AGM battery.


I think these are all suitable replacement start AGM NCV3 batteries.

What do you think?

Oh, and before anyone mentions it, I can't find any CCA specs for our factory (AGM) batteries. If you know them please post the CCA spec. If you know why these batteries are not a suitable alternative to the MB part number, I'd love to read your thoughts.

I think the factory battery labeling indicates the same manufacturer (EPD), aka East Penn aka East Penn Deka, the same source of the OEM equipment sells the above batteries for Braille, Napa and its own Deka line.

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Default Re: My 2007 Sprinter starter battery - branding evidence

John, you made me go out and pull up the cover on my battery! My battery is a Varta unit made in Germany. What is the price of that Braille battery? I installed a 3000 watt inverter in my van with 2/0 cables to the battery. It is handling it just perfectly but would like the security of a AGM battery. I thought the stock batteries for the Sprinter were the lead acid type seeing how it has a little "gas" breather hose. I didn't really get into the battery label once I've seen the varta logo.
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