The Renegotiation of USMCA has begun

Solera2012

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This is important, so I hope both Mexico and Canada can work with the USA in forming a Stong alliance........

Mexico and USA Begin Bilateral Preparations to Dissolve USMCA Without Canada


March 8, 2026

One of the most curious aspects to the predictable USMCA review, ie. dissolution, has been the incapacity of the Canadian government or trade delegation to accept the United States is going to create two distinctly different bilateral trade agreements and eliminate the trilateral USMCA.



For 16 months the Canadians have refused to fathom the reality of what is going to happen this year.
The Canadians just cannot believe it is possible they will be forced to negotiate a free trade agreement without the cover of a multilateral construct. It has been remarkable to watch their dissonance.

Last week President Donald Trump and Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum held a phone call. At the conclusion of the call, Sheinbaum publicly asserted the reality the Canadians just refuse to accept.

MEXICO – Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum told reporters during her morning news briefing on Wednesday that her U.S. counterpart, Donald Trump, is open to doing away with the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement (USMCA) and replace it with individual trade deals with each country.
[…] “There might be revisions that create bilateral deals instead of involving the three countries because some things are more important between Mexico and the United Sates or between Canada and the United States,” said Sheinbaum. “Not everything has to be trilateral.”

Mexico’s president said the subject was brought up by Trump during a Tuesday phone conversation. […] According to Sheinbaum, her country is ready to consider possible changes.


Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney finally started to realize President Trump was likely to ignore Canada and begin direct discussions with Sheinbaum. So, Carney went to Mexico to try and get assurances from Sheinbaum that Mexico would not proceed without Canadian interests in mind.

Essentially, Carney wanted Sheinbaum to be on his team. However, as diplomatically noted in the phone call with President Trump, President Sheinbaum politely rejected the Canadian partnership. [Insert Trump’s position toward Mexican cartels as an overriding thought]

The Canadians have been talking to U.S. media looking for sympathetic ‘Orange man bad’ coverage. However, within the contacts between Canadian government officials and U.S. corporate allies, the sentiment from team Trump is very clear:

“The key thing that has struck me, and I think it has struck all Canadians, is so many of these guys in the Trump administration, frankly, they just hate Canada,” said Brian Clow, former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s deputy chief of staff who led Canada-U.S. affairs. {source}

It’s not hatred, it’s annoyance.

Years of compounding parasitic annoyances and sanctimonious, ‘holier-than-thou’ pontifications from the arrogant and uppity Canadian government.

The only time Canada has been honest with themselves and with President Trump was when Justin Trudeau was exiting office and admitted Canada cannot function without all of the one-way benefits it receives from the USA.

Should be interesting dealing with an absolute genius in business. He will look out for the best interests of North America, hopefully Canada and Mexico realize this...
 
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flman

Giving Green, and libturds a break from butt hurt
I would rather do business with Beaner's anyways.
 

flman

Giving Green, and libturds a break from butt hurt
I'd rather do business with Kanuckistanis. Where else will we get poutine?

And we need their geese. They are delicious.
Fatty is always thinking about his stomach first.

You make it so damn easy, an endless supply of ammo.
 

Green Maned Lion

Der Unverbesserliche.
Fatty is always thinking about his stomach first.

You make it so damn easy, an endless supply of ammo.
Yes. It is funny how quickly you grab on easy things to do, and don't try.

I never really believed there were such a thing as Trump cult dumbass conservatives, but you've sure shown me. I had thought conservatives were more sensible than you.
 

flman

Giving Green, and libturds a break from butt hurt
Yes. It is funny how quickly you grab on easy things to do, and don't try.
You're a big fat tree of low hanging fruit, who could resist?
I never really believed there were such a thing as Trump cult dumbass conservatives, but you've sure shown me. I had thought conservatives were more sensible than you.
How did Trump get brought into a discussion, about your stomach, and the endless ammo you supply? Must be your TDS acting up again.
 

Green Maned Lion

Der Unverbesserliche.
You're a big fat tree of low hanging fruit, who could resist?

How did Trump get brought into a discussion, about your stomach, and the endless ammo you supply? Must be your TDS acting up again.
It was a conversation about how you can't put effort into trolling. You're a lazy troll. Kajtek beats you at it 8 to the bar.
 

45Kevin

Well-known member
This is important, so I hope both Mexico and Canada can work with the USA in forming a Stong alliance........

Mexico and USA Begin Bilateral Preparations to Dissolve USMCA Without Canada


March 8, 2026

One of the most curious aspects to the predictable USMCA review, ie. dissolution, has been the incapacity of the Canadian government or trade delegation to accept the United States is going to create two distinctly different bilateral trade agreements and eliminate the trilateral USMCA.



For 16 months the Canadians have refused to fathom the reality of what is going to happen this year.
The Canadians just cannot believe it is possible they will be forced to negotiate a free trade agreement without the cover of a multilateral construct. It has been remarkable to watch their dissonance.

Last week President Donald Trump and Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum held a phone call. At the conclusion of the call, Sheinbaum publicly asserted the reality the Canadians just refuse to accept.

MEXICO – Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum told reporters during her morning news briefing on Wednesday that her U.S. counterpart, Donald Trump, is open to doing away with the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement (USMCA) and replace it with individual trade deals with each country.
[…] “There might be revisions that create bilateral deals instead of involving the three countries because some things are more important between Mexico and the United Sates or between Canada and the United States,” said Sheinbaum. “Not everything has to be trilateral.”

Mexico’s president said the subject was brought up by Trump during a Tuesday phone conversation. […] According to Sheinbaum, her country is ready to consider possible changes.


Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney finally started to realize President Trump was likely to ignore Canada and begin direct discussions with Sheinbaum. So, Carney went to Mexico to try and get assurances from Sheinbaum that Mexico would not proceed without Canadian interests in mind.

Essentially, Carney wanted Sheinbaum to be on his team. However, as diplomatically noted in the phone call with President Trump, President Sheinbaum politely rejected the Canadian partnership. [Insert Trump’s position toward Mexican cartels as an overriding thought]

The Canadians have been talking to U.S. media looking for sympathetic ‘Orange man bad’ coverage. However, within the contacts between Canadian government officials and U.S. corporate allies, the sentiment from team Trump is very clear:

“The key thing that has struck me, and I think it has struck all Canadians, is so many of these guys in the Trump administration, frankly, they just hate Canada,” said Brian Clow, former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s deputy chief of staff who led Canada-U.S. affairs. {source}

It’s not hatred, it’s annoyance.

Years of compounding parasitic annoyances and sanctimonious, ‘holier-than-thou’ pontifications from the arrogant and uppity Canadian government.

The only time Canada has been honest with themselves and with President Trump was when Justin Trudeau was exiting office and admitted Canada cannot function without all of the one-way benefits it receives from the USA.

Should be interesting dealing with an absolute genius in business. He will look out for the best interests of North America, hopefully Canada and Mexico realize this...

Where did this get copied and pasted from?

It is true that Canada is very dependent on trade with the US.
We are a country of 40 million next to a country of 400 million.
But the US is also very dependent on trade with Canada.

The orange man bad has blatantly lied to the US people.

Potash is a major component of fertilizer. The US produces 2% of what it needs.
Canada is a major potash producer. You buy a lot of it from us, you have to, to grow food.

Heavy crude is another large export to the US.
Many mid-west refineries can only refine heavy crude.
You buy a lot of it from us, you have to, to keep the refineries running.
Incidentally, if you took the heavy crude that we export to you out of the equation, the US would be the "parasite" on Canada.

And again incidentally, neither crude nor potash have tariffs on them. I guess we could throw export taxes on them to even the playing field.
Same applies to electricity, although most of our electricity goes to blue states so orange man might not care.

A lot of auto parts are produced in Canada and it would take years and many billions to bring that supply production back to the US.
I agree to original AutoPact that was formulated in the 1960s very much favoured Canada for some reason, but here we are.

A North American wide trade deal would be ideal, but if the deal is bi-lateral, so be it.
I think Canada will hold its own in negotiations.

And again incidentally, negotiations were going on last fall and the orange man stopped them when he had a temper tantrum because the premier of Ontario ran some TV ads showing a Ronald Regan speech about the downsides of tariffs.


I have not cited these facts (except the ad video) but would be happy to if are too lazy to look it up yourself.
 

cbaarch

2016 Unity MB
The process is a Review NOT a renegociation of the agreement. There is a difference. Subject line is misleading )-:
Article 34.7. they can agree to stay the course until it expires in 2036 or with no agreement it gets reviewed every year for the next 5 yrs.
OR
Article 34.6 Any of the 3 parties to the agreement can get out with 6 months notice.- the other 2 can continue with the agreement or they also can agree to terminate.

The US calls it USMCA; Canada called it CUSMA (kooz-ma) when googling to find the text of the agreement. https://www.international.gc.ca/tra...r-acc/cusma-aceum/text-texte/34.aspx?lang=eng

If the trade agreement gets cancellled, the US Congress will have to get busy to adjust International Trade Agreements/Treaties that are impacted by the USMCA trilateral agreement.
 

Solera2012

Well-known member
It is true that Canada is very dependent on trade with the US.
We are a country of 40 million next to a country of 400 million.
But the US is also very dependent on trade with Canada.
True statement
The orange man bad has blatantly lied to the US people.
You have TDS. cite the lies?

Potash is a major component of fertilizer. The US produces 2% of what it needs.
Canada is a major potash producer. You buy a lot of it from us, you have to, to grow food.
True statement. we also take that potash and grow a lot of the food you EAT. you live on basically rock. ever wonder why 90% of your population lives within 100 miles of the US border? because your country is mostly frozen rocks. Stop with your tough guy will ya, it has no teeth. lol

Heavy crude is another large export to the US.
Canada has no heavy crude refineries to speak of, smoke that!

Many mid-west refineries can only refine heavy crude.
You buy a lot of it from us, you have to, to keep the refineries running.
Incidentally, if you took the heavy crude that we export to you out of the equation, the US would be the "parasite" on Canada.
You are uneducated, so lucky for you I'm the teacher, so listen up TDSer..

Houston/Galveston TEXAS was built to process heavy crude. Your country can't refine it so stop sounding like you have the upper hand, YOU DONT. your crude comes from tar sands in Alberta, and needs heat to extract (costly). Venezuela, who for decades has been shipping heavy crude (cheaper to extract) to Houston until the commie _ucked it up. President Trump accomplished two things; 1. took out the commie dictator, who was supplying crude to China, and 2. is now having it imported to the US (AGAIN), of which production has since doubled and monies are being sent to the VZ government to un-commie them. Guess who their daddy is going to be!

Again, your TDS blinds you :)

A lot of auto parts are produced in Canada
Wrong. they use to be, but you stupid _ucks..got in bed with the Chinese and just import them now, rather than produce them domestically. you are a dummy not knowing that SO LOOK IT UP. you're liberal govt has gutted your manufacturing and you are now more an assembler (economic term look it up). if you continue to think you can import car parts from china, for assembly into vehicles destined for the US market, you will be punished in the new separate trade agreChina,

I think Canada will hold its own in negotiations.
You elected a moron and your own people, Albertains want to leave. stop with your nonsense talk and face reality.

There, I fixed this travesty. thank me in your reply post after you do some research on your own country. oh, BTW, it's more like 350 mil, and yours in North of 40 mil. class is in recess. :)
 
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Solera2012

Well-known member
The process is a Review NOT a renegociation of the agreement. There is a difference. Subject line is misleading )-:
Article 34.7. they can agree to stay the course until it expires in 2036 or with no agreement it gets reviewed every year for the next 5 yrs.
OR
Article 34.6 Any of the 3 parties to the agreement can get out with 6 months notice.- the other 2 can continue with the agreement or they also can agree to terminate.

The US calls it USMCA; Canada called it CUSMA (kooz-ma) when googling to find the text of the agreement. https://www.international.gc.ca/tra...r-acc/cusma-aceum/text-texte/34.aspx?lang=eng

If the trade agreement gets cancellled, the US Congress will have to get busy to adjust International Trade Agreements/Treaties that are impacted by the USMCA trilateral agreement.
See Article II, section 2 of US Constitution for further knowledge. Googling can be dangerous in the hands of many..

It reads "He shall have Power, by and with the Advise and Consent of the Senate (not Congress you mislead here) to make treaties...

Always refer to the Constitution for guidance. things go very bad when it is misread as in the case of Roe v. for example and Chevron. both huge gravestones of liberalism by the judicial branch limited by Article III.

P.S. subject line of thread is not misleading, but rather an invitation to posters to understand the changing of the USMCA is upon us. if you want to split hairs, it's the Senate, not Congress.

Canada has an inferiority complex that does not suit them well. They need to play nicer in the sand box, or things will not go well for them.
 
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45Kevin

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True statement

You have TDS. cite the lies?


True statement. we also take that potash and grow a lot of the food you EAT. you live on basically rock. ever wonder why 90% of your population lives within 100 miles of the US border? because your country is mostly frozen rocks. Stop with your tough guy will ya, it has no teeth. lol


Canada has no heavy crude refineries to speak of, smoke that!


You are uneducated, so lucky for you I'm the teacher, so listen up TDSer..

Houston/Galveston TEXAS was built to process heavy crude. Your country can't refine it so stop sounding like you have the upper hand, YOU DONT. your crude comes from tar sands in Alberta, and needs heat to extract (costly). Venezuela, who for decades has been shipping heavy crude (cheaper to extract) to Houston until the commie _ucked it up. President Trump accomplished two things; 1. took out the commie dictator, who was supplying crude to China, and 2. is now having it imported to the US (AGAIN), of which production has since doubled and monies are being sent to the VZ government to un-commie them. Guess who their daddy is going to be!

Again, your TDS blinds you :)


Wrong. they use to be, but you stupid _ucks..got in bed with the Chinese and just import them now, rather than produce them domestically. you are a dummy not knowing that SO LOOK IT UP. you're liberal govt has gutted your manufacturing and you are now more an assembler (economic term look it up). if you continue to think you can import car parts from china, for assembly into vehicles destined for the US market, you will be punished in the new separate trade agreChina,


You elected a moron and your own people, Albertains want to leave. stop with your nonsense talk and face reality.

There, I fixed this travesty. thank me in your reply post after you do some research on your own country. oh, BTW, it's more like 350 mil, and yours in North of 40 mil. class is in recess. :)

I'll just drop this here.


And thank you.

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