New Apartment Building - Remove top two floors

[Solera2012]

The link to the new article I posted in post #36 goes into this a little deeper.
Any fines would go to the provincial government.

I fully expect, from what I have read so far, to see the demo proceed.

Teach the prick a lesson and hopefully he doesn't fine his way out of it.

 

[Solera2012]

Not sure if you caught it in an earlier post, but the city became aware of the extra floors as soon as the 10th floor was poured.
They just didn't do anything about it at that time. The article isn't clear why, only that they documented it.

His lawyer will use this to settle. "Hey judge, they knew but didn't say anything", what the lawyer wont say to the judge.. so we thought, _uck..it, keep pouring another one. they never seen a builder like us..lol

 

[Solera2012]

Builder Zagros

Greek?

 

[Rocksnsalt]

As it should.

 

[45Kevin]

Greek?

Not sure, but the Zagros Mountains are in Iran.

 

[Rocksnsalt]

Not sure, but the Zagros Mountains are in Iran.

I wasn’t going to mention that but…

And now they have a big mountain of a problem…
actually more than one.

 

[ECU]

His lawyer will use this to settle. "Hey judge, they knew but didn't say anything", what the lawyer wont say to the judge.. so we thought, _uck..it, keep pouring another one. they never seen a builder like us..lol

I'm sure they will be allowed to 'deactivate' the floors for a few years. Then reopen them when no one is paying attention.

 

[45Kevin]

I'm sure there is no relation to current events.
Canada's Maritime provinces have welcomed middle east immigrants for 60 or 70 years. There are many second and third generation Canadians of ME decent. There is a huge Lebanese community well integrated. They make the best Donairs.

This is the only internet presence outside of their current dilemma I could find.
This is a link to the discharge documents of a 2019 development permit for a 6 story building.
No doubt to reapply with the 9 story plans.

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default/files/documents/city-hall/community-councils/201216hemdcc1312.pdf

 

[45Kevin]

I wasn’t going to mention that but…

And now they have a big mountain of a problem…
actually more than one.

I'm sure they will be allowed to 'deactivate' the floors for a few years. Then reopen them when no one is paying attention.

I don't think so.
From everything I have read council is determined not to set a precedent that would turn building by-laws into suggestions.

 

[vstech]

I spent 20 years in commercial construction and never meet an inspector that did not come up through the trades.

They usually just get tired of the ons and offs of the construction industry and opt for a cushy gubberment job, complete with 12 sick days a year, 4 weeks of paid vacation and 9 stats a year, good defined benefits pension and regular pay increases.

You should check out the inspectors here in Charlotte NC.
the code enforcement crew has increased substantially, with dozens of inspectors right out of college.
The vast majority of them have very little construction trade knowledge.
Frequently i get asked code questions from them, insane.

 

[45Kevin]

So it looks like the company was created for this project.

There is a Zagros Nova Development Inc. I Ontario, registered in 2006 IIRC.
There is also one in Quebec registered in 1986 IIRC.

I don't think I have free access to company officers in Ontario or Quebec.

You should check out the inspectors here in Charlotte NC.
the code enforcement crew has increased substantially, with dozens of inspectors right out of college.
The vast majority of them have very little construction trade knowledge.
Frequently i get asked code questions from them, insane.

Would that have anything to do with the flood rebuilding?

 

[45Kevin]

There office is in a business center.

 

[bigb]

A friend who was an excellent framer built a laundry room at some 1920's cottages in S. Phx. that were inhabited by illegals.
He was afraid of electrical and asked me to do it. it had a drop from a pole to a service box on a 4 x 4 pole about 10ft. from the new bldg.
I gasped when I saw the service box was an indoor box with knockouts removed and NO main breaker.
I wired the bldg. than worked backwards and wired to the box.
I kept asking him to get an outdoor box, it was just a sub panel for about 4 breakers....

3 weeks later, a gas leak happened and ALL the inspectors showed up with the fire dept. and police.
He called me in to talk to the inspector.
This rocket scientist had an issue with the zinc plated screws on the ground clamp and wanted me to put knock out plugs in the holes.
I kept hinting at: Shouldn't this be an outdoor box?
Don't you think it should have a main shut off?

Deer in the headlights, I plugged the holes and got bronze screws for the clamps....
A lot of inspectors are clueless and have never been in the trades....

Believe it or not 3R (outdoor rated) enclosures and the requirement to use them in residential construction is relatively new, having come about in our lifetimes. There are a lot of homes here built in the early sixties with indoor equipment used as outdoor service equipment, in fact my grandson just bought one.

Additionally, you are allowed up to six disconnects, so technically up to six circuit breakers at the service entrance is legal, once you exceed six you need a main. (The service equipment must be approved and labeled for service equipment). There are still 6 circuit outdoor panels made that are approved for service equipment.

 

[45Kevin]

Apparently this is not their first foray into the media in Nova Scotia.

This is an article about a property they wanted to make into an apartment building being designated a heritage property.
Ergo, very strict rules about what changes to the building can be made.

Bedford property gets heritage designation despite history of problematic owners - Halifax Examiner

A pair of problematic former owners and the objection of the current owner didn’t stop council from designating a new heritage property in Bedford. Council held a heritage hearing during its meeting on Tuesday for 1262 Bedford Hwy. The building on the property, located at the corner of the...

www.halifaxexaminer.ca

 

[Rocksnsalt]

What a surprise…

 

[vstech]

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So it looks like the company was created for this project.

There is a Zagros Nova Development Inc. I Ontario, registered in 2006 IIRC.
There is also one in Quebec registered in 1986 IIRC.

I don't think I have free access to company officers in Ontario or Quebec.



Would that have anything to do with the flood rebuilding?

Flooding was in the mountains, quite a distance from here.
I suppose some inspectors could have moved there, but the vast majority of inspector crash here is from the MASSIVE influx of population in the last 10 years.
Housing has increased here massively, population has icreased to an insane amount, 42 years ago when i moved here, charlotte population was around 350k, now it is nearly a million, and the surrounding city and counties have increased just as much.
Apartment and condos have popped up on any stretch of land available, neighborhoods are razed for apartment and mcmansion construction.

 

[45Kevin]

Flooding was in the mountains, quite a distance from here.
I suppose some inspectors could have moved there, but the vast majority of inspector crash here is from the MASSIVE influx of population in the last 10 years.
Housing has increased here massively, population has icreased to an insane amount, 42 years ago when i moved here, charlotte population was around 350k, now it is nearly a million, and the surrounding city and counties have increased just as much.
Apartment and condos have popped up on any stretch of land available, neighborhoods are razed for apartment and mcmansion construction.

That's a shame, but probably the best the state/municipalities can do.
Calgary has gone through growth spurts where inspectors would basically ask you if you got everything right. Yes answer would get a sign off.
It comes back to haunt you in a few years.

It always puzzles me that when an area gets a large influx of new people, why aren't there proportional amounts of each kind of worker.

 

[Lagom]

Imagine living in the society and world where we all "humans" do the right things by following the rules and laws.
Our society and world will be much peaceful and beautiful.

I'm with you.

 

[vreihen]

You know what they say, though. "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. Those that can't teach, become inspectors"

...or band directors, as the saying in my high school used to go!

My late old man was a broadcast engineer, and pulled thousands of miles of cable in his lifetime. He decided to build his own house in a small town. Of course, my old man did all of the electrical work by himself. When it came time for the electrical sign-off, the inspector figured "another DIY hack job" and booked the entire day to "educate" another wannabe electrician.

After checking the meter pan, the inspector went to the main panel in the basement. As you would expect from a broadcast engineer, the wires into the box were perfectly parallel, clearly marked, and looked like they were radius bent with a protractor where they fanned out straight into the panel. After spending a few minutes appreciating the workmanship that was worthy of an art museum, the inspector followed one branch circuit out to the end and signed off on the whole job in 15 minutes. (Remember, he booked a whole day for the inspection.) Long story short, the inspector asked my old man if he could delay closing the walls for a few days...so that he could bring every licensed electrical contractor in the town to see the workmanship that he expected from them from that day forward!

Ironically, the day before we closed to sell the house after my old man's passing, lightning struck the service mast. The bolt came down the mast, blew the meter apart, and went harmlessly into the oversized ground rod through the massive-overkill ground cable that my old man used. The panel and everything still plugged into power inside the house was not damaged in any way.

Anyway, just mentioning this because it's a case where those who can and those who became inspectors both wound up teaching.....

 

[3Play]

Believe it or not 3R (outdoor rated) enclosures and the requirement to use them in residential construction is relatively new, having come about in our lifetimes. There are a lot of homes here built in the early sixties with indoor equipment used as outdoor service equipment, in fact my grandson just bought one.

Additionally, you are allowed up to six disconnects, so technically up to six circuit breakers at the service entrance is legal, once you exceed six you need a main. (The service equipment must be approved and labeled for service equipment). There are still 6 circuit outdoor panels made that are approved for service equipment.

Wow!
This was an indoor wall mount with a flange for flush mounting in the wall, but it was screwed to a 4x4 out in the weather with a tall pole about 10ft. away and the drop to the service did not have a main...
It was clearly re-purposed since it was painted and had about 8 knock outs missing....
No ground from the pole, just 2 legs......
It had rained and water was getting into the box that was in reach of little children....
I was actually hoping the inspector would shit can the hole thing and make them get a new service.....